Tuesday, October 12, 2010

Personal Identity

Chapter 4 discusses human iddentity. First we have to understand what's the idea. Identity comes from the root id, idem (again and again).

Let's complicate things a bit: What sort of things are you and I and other human people?

For instance, are we made up entirely of matter, just as stones are, or partly or wholly of something else? And if we are made of matter, what matter is it? (Just the matter that makes up our bodies, or might we be larger or smaller than our bodies?) Where, in other words, do our spatial boundaries lie? More fundamentally, what fixes those boundaries? Are we substances - that is, independent beings—or is each of us a state or an aspect of something else, or perhaps some sort of process or event?

Generally speaking, we take identity to be that what makes you unique as an individual and different from others. Let's take a look at some views:

Animalism is the idea that you are your body. If we are "animals," we have the persistence conditions of animals. And animals appear to persist by virtue of some sort of brute physical continuity. So Animalism seems to imply a somatic version of you.


Careful! Being a person however is only a temporary property. A person is the kind of entity that has the moral right to make its own life-choices, to live its life without (unprovoked) interference from others. In general PERSON = an entity that has the moral right of self-determination.

The problem with animalism is that there seems to be something more fluid within the body that, for a variety of reasons can hate hie/her body. This brings us to the transgender issue and transgender-related topics.


Locke disagrees with Animalism. For Locke, ous identity lies in something more fluid. In fact, the problem begins with Biblical texts asserting that we will have the same body at the Resurrection as we did in this life. Locke explicitly tells us that the case of the prince and the cobbler shows us the resolution of the problem of the resurrection. The case is one in which the soul of the prince with all of its princely thoughts is transferred from the body of the prince to the body of the cobbler, the cobbler's soul having departed. The result of this exchange, is that the prince still consider himself the prince, even though he finds himself in an altogether new body. Locke's distinction between man and person makes it possible for the same person to show up in a different body at the resurrection and yet still be the same person. Locke focuses on the prince with all his princely thoughts because, on his view, it is consciousness which is crucial to the reward and punishment which is to be meted out at the Last Judgment.

The Soul Theory:

To say that one has a soul, acording to the Soul Theory is to say that the basis for one's memories and feelings and desires -the whole basis for one's personality- is made possible by an entity known as the soul. The idea here is that even if one loses this memory or that, or even if one's personality changes, that which underlies these things -- the soul -- remains unchanged and as such provides the basis for saying that it is the same person over time.

One counterargument against the Sopul Theory is Leibniz's King of China:

Leibniz asks if we would be willing to have our souls switched into the body of Bill Gates (to update the example) if it meant that all of the "pins" were switched (so Bill Gates' pins are put into your pincushion and your pins are put into his pincushion). By Soul Theory, you would become very rich, even though you would have all of the memories and desires of Bill Gates. Leibniz thinks that no one would agree to this switch, proving that no one finds it intuitive that "same soul" is a sufficient condition for personal identity.

The text makes an interesting point, the soul doesn't explain anything that you wouldn't know by looking at people's behavior. That is to say, what we call "soul" is generally the character of the individual.

5 comments:

M. said...

I believe we all carry our own unique personal identity, and display it in which ever manner we choose. A personal identity is more visual and can lead to quick judgement because the ways in which we demonstrate it are in our clothes or attitude, basically our daily appearances. Our souls on the other hand can be a bit more complicated. It can vary with religions or beliefs we portray and whether it can control our thoughts and happens after your physical self has passed.

Trentini said...

I believe we all carry our own unique personal identity, and display it in which ever manner we choose. A personal identity is more visual and can lead to quick judgement because the ways in which we demonstrate it are in our clothes or attitude, basically our daily appearances. Our souls on the other hand can be a bit more complicated. It can vary with religions or beliefs we portray and whether it can control our thoughts and happens after your physical self has passed.

Leandro said...

Because of my own research and book readings, i do not agree with this concept of "personal identity". I feel people view personal identity as to how they behave and how they were brought up as children to adults. Personal identity in the way i see it, revolves around your attitude, your character, and your personality. In addition, for the text to dismiss the fact that the soul is not relevant, or does not exist is in my opinion inaccurate. I refer to the soul as the spirit within each of us. The way i feel the truth of it to be is we are not physical beings having temporary spiritual experiences, we are spiritual beings having a temporary physical experience. The soul or spirit, is how we are able to receive information via intuition. Sometimes we are able to know when we are in good hands or bad hands, without ever knowing the area. How is it possible for us to have an idea, that this location one is in, is unsafe for them? In the way i see it, it's the spirit sending messages to ones consciousness. Thus having this intuitive feeling that one is not in a safe place. To give credit to my statement, i refer to consciousness. The first item that is created in us as we evolve into a fetus is consciousness. Spec of consciousness is the first thing the human being receives in creation. I find it impossible for us not to have a soul. No soul, no transcendence into the divine.

Mr Triff, share your thoughts cause i would like to know your feedback on this post. Thanks,

Leandro Toledo

Beija Mosqueda said...

Animalism, I feel, is too restricting when it comes to identity. Humans are multifaceted and complex and cannot be labeled as their bodies alone. I agree that there is something more “fluid” in the existence of a human, which would account for a soul but I do not feel that a person’s "soul" accounts for that person’s outward personality. I can understand that a soul can stand as a base for the underlying identity of a person, but I don’t see how the soul will remain the same. When someone’s personality takes on small changes as they mature so too should the soul change accordingly. If we look at this from a religious standpoint, then a person will be resurrected kingdom come as they are today. But how can they be resurrected as who they are today using only their soul and not the changes to the personality that have occurred throughout their lifetime?

Alfredo Triff said...

Personal identity in the way i see it, revolves around your attitude, your character, and your personality.

Leandro, never define in terms of the definition.