Suppose you believe "X" (which happens to be important for you). (a) Do you care if you have a justification for it? (b) Do you care if "X" is true? In your answer, try to think of a real-life example. hi, I probably not care at first, but that is because I'm more of a feeling person than of a thinking person. I mean do not get me wrong it's not that i will not care, it is just that sometimes is not worth the justification, because like I said before I feel before I think.
Well I believe in free will and as for justification, I personally think there is. But even if there wasn’t I would still like to believe there is and I would be frustrated to know for sure that I cannot change the way my life is going. I am not saying that we can control everything in our lives but we make choices then we deal with the consequences of our actions.
Well there is always some of that, self-deceit, as we said in class people see what they want to see. I try to face reality but some things are hard to face even when the evidence is staring you in the face. And the only way to change it is to accept the truth no matter how offensive it is then try and rebuild your reality to the new information.
hi, i'm going to share something very true to me, and I'm still trying to accept the justification for it. The night of the day before my son died, I spend it following his father and trying to work things out between us and from there went straight to work. anyway, the point is that I never imagin that I will received a phone call telling me that my new born son died while sleeping. So now you tell me what justification is there. The fact that the only thing for certain is death. or the fact that it does not only happen to me. you see i realize that day and from there on that "we" I need to believe that there is more after dead or I would go crazy thinking WHY ME? I also took this experience as a lesson and realize that we are nothing but illusions, one day we are here the very next second we are gone. and yet I still believe that not all needs justification to be (MY)true.
If i believe in "X" then it has to have some kind of justification for it to make sense. How can something be not true and important?? My grandmother told me everything in life happens for a reason, and everything in life has a reason. so if i cant justify it then it cant exist because as a human being i need to justify all things so that ill have a clear understanding of life. So i care about the truth because life is too real.
Expanding on what Marimar said, I believe in death for a greater good. When my sister was 5 she was diagnosed with leukemia. She battled the disease for two years; enduring the chemotherapy and several surgeries. Shortly before her death she was in a great deal of pain. I believed that her death came as peace to her and my family and ended her long suffering. Although many people believe that there is no justification for death, in some instances it is our last hope at peace.
Three year's ago my older cousin got married to her husband. Prior to their engagement they were together for five years. Usually the first year of marriage is typically the best. They were deeply in love I had no doubt that they were meant to be together. In their second year of marriage my cousin became pregant, but the issue didn't occur until her husband got into some problems and was incarcerated for two nights and three days. She did everthing in her will and power to get him out of jail. In my point of view thats what I call a great wife. A week after he got out he decides that he wanted out of what they were trying to create what they called a family. I would always ask why would he do such a thing and abandon and mislead his wife and leave her for someone else after all she's done for him. I believe that there should be justification to why he left.
I would always ask why would he do such a thing and abandon and mislead his wife and leave her for someone else after all she's done for him. I believe that there should be justification to why he left.
An interesting philosophical problem. And what's your answer?
If I believe "x" and it is important to me. It is more than likely that I can justify it at least to myself, and as long as I have that justification wether or not "X" is true is at least momentarily irrelevent. As Human Beings sometimes being justified sufices in place of truth if at least only momentarily.
I strongly belief that keeping dolphins (or any other animal) in captivity is wrong.
People admire dolphins because of their high intelligence, their great communication system and respect them because they are, just as humans self-conscious.
In our ‘love’ for them we smother them and force them in being something they are not.
Our ‘love’ is not real love because real love is not selfish and not destroying.
We keep them from being free and pull them away from their family, friends and natural environment.
We say that kidnapping a child (or any human being) is morally wrong. It is wrong because a human being has feelings, has the right to freedom and suffers from captivity because he’s SELF-CONSCIOUS.
A dolphin has feelings has the right to freedom and suffers from its captivity because he is a SELF CONSIOUS-BEING!
I will let statistics speak for themselves in the few next examples, which have been proved scientifically:
1) 53% of those dolphins who survive the violent capture die within 90 days. The average life span of a dolphin in the wild is 45 years; yet half of all captured dolphins die within their first two years of captivity. The survivors last an average of only 5 years in captivity.
2) Every seven years, half of all dolphins in captivity die from capture shock, pneumonia, intestinal disease, ulcers, chlorine poisoning, and other stress-related illnesses. To the captive dolphin industry, these facts are accepted as routine operating expenses.
3) In many tanks the water is full of chemicals as well as bacteria, causing many health problems in dolphins including blindness.
4) When a baby dolphin is born in captivity, the news is usually kept secret until the calf shows signs of survival. Although marine mammals do breed in captivity, the birth rate is not nearly as successful as the one in the wild, with high infant mortality rates.
These are just a few among many many examples of harm we do to dolphins, keeping them in captivity.
Dolphins (and all the other animals) should be kept out of the prison called the zoo, or any other form of captivity.
Suppose you believe "X" (which happens to be important for you). (a) Do you care if you have a justification for it? (b) Do you care if "X" is true? In your answer, try to think of a real-life example.
If I believe in X and it's important to me, I probably wouldn't care rather or not if the justification is true or not as long as there's an explanation stating "why such and such happen?" or something explaining "How they got to that conclusion?" I've learned in life that people don't really care if what they do to others is "right or wrong", " true or false" as long as they accomplish what they were set out to do.
Agaia: Good point. I'm glad you turn the thread away from familiar stuff and more into other issues. Let's follow beliefs such as euthanasia, death penalty, etc.
I believe that there is always a brighter side of things. I am one of those people who are usually happy almost all of the time. I never really let anything bother me, even in some hard situation. The subject of the conditions in which I was conceived was always something I wondered about but never really asked. See my father lives in New York with a whole other family, wife and kids the whole sha-bang, but I live with my mother here in Miami since I left New York at the age of 4. I’ve known about him and talked to him through out my life, as well I knew of his other family. One day when I was about to turn 18 I come to find out that I was a secret. All of my other siblings, I being the youngest, had never knew I existed. What was I to think? Some might be upset but not me. Whether my belief is justified or true really doesn’t matter to me, I still hold true that there is more good in this world then bad.
hi, I believed that a man that rapes and kills children once found guilty should be killed and put out of their miserable life. I find no justification for someone like this. I don’t care for a justification. some doctors sees them as sick, and some argue that it is not their fault that they were once abused too, so that should in some way justify their crimes. I don’t care if they were abuse or beaten by whoever all I know is that they deserve the dead penalty. There was an error when this species were created. I don’t believe in dead penalty, only I do when it comes to this type of crime. This is important to me because I have children, so I will stand by this believe. And the fact that I have children is my justification.
When confronted with things beyond my understanding I tend to find refuge in the beliefs that comfort me. It does not have to be justified or even true to others beside myself. As long as I can find some clarity in what I believe, that is suitable for me. This was the case when I was told that someone important to me was diagnosed with cancer. I wondered why a person I loved deeply had to confront such a life threatening illness. I found peace in the belief that things happen for a reason and that she wouldn't be put through anything that she couldn't handle. Though this belief may be untrue it set my soul at ease and helped me maintain a positive outlook and that is all that truly mattered to me.
Well...before I get to my point, there's a brief story that ties into this...a few weeks ago, or maybe months ago, I had a conversation with my friend in the car. We had actually just finished our afternoon class that ends at 9pm and had a bite to eat at the McDonalds. We end up walking into the middle of what looked like a session of some group gathering. And the leader of this thing was an old friend of mine from highschool((who by the way I had a huge crush on then)). I briefly catch up with him but then realize that we're kinda inturrupting his group session. So we ask what was that they were doing? It ended up being a Christian youth group thing, which is great, I was in youth group at my church and very much involved in it, but they're views on Christianity did not meet mine at all. He had invited and insisted for us to sit with them, we did, I just chose not to say anything((and I remembered why I stopped having a crush on this guy)). I did ask him some stuff after the session was over, my friend and I, and he eventually invited us to continue accidentally walking through his group sessions. My friend thought it cool, and me being nice I said sure, maybe...we didn't. We showed up I think((accidentally and pretending we completely forgot they were meeting Tuesday nights)) just 'cause he's cute. So in the car on the way home, of course we talked about it. And before though I go any further I would like to apologize before hand to those that may read this and be offended by it. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we are in 2009. I believe in Christ, therefore I am a Christian. However I do not go to the extremities that he is my savior, I have to worship him, and if I don't I'll go to hell, blah, blah, blah. I have been going to the same church since I was 4 or so; it is a Christian church, a nondenominational Christian church studying the metaphysics of the bible and the acceptance of all religions inorder to spiritually grow; and having perhaps 68% of the congregation being gay. And since I grew up in this church, my mother also being a stylist at the time, I also grew up and was open to the gay population((and perhaps that brushed off on me a bit)). So...back in the car, my friend says something like in the bible it says that homosexuality is wrong. She says she absolutely knows its wrong therefore she must believe it to be wrong as well. And of course then she must also think that I, myself am wrong as well. Yet she adores me and values our friendship, and has other friends that are gay too. So she must think they're "wrong" too? I am a Christian. I am also in love with someone who happens to be the same sex as me. I believe that love is love. I know I am still very young and may be naive to what "love" is. However you can't deny what you have a stand for and what you believe in. If I am wrong, and to some, or even a lot, I may in fact be wrong((sux ass but true)), in this case I do not care of it to be true.
In all respect, some people have justifications and true beliefs for what they believe in and what they don’t. I believe that the death penalty is wrong no matter how you put it. Let’s say for instance, that a kidnapper hypothetically speaking, kidnapped, raped, and murdered your child, and the prosecution opted for the death penalty of that kidnapper and murderer, would you stand by it and let it happen? I wouldn’t because to me that is immoral. Two wrongs don’t make a right, why would you want to put the kidnappers’ mother in the same position that you were once in, knowing that your child was murdered, why would you want to cause the same heartache and pain to that mother, in which you felt once before. Killing the kidnapper is not going to give you justification for killing him, nor will it bring your child back. No matter what your true belief maybe, you’re committing the same crime in which he committed, “murder,” but you’re getting away with it, because you feel justified in your convictions. It doesn’t matter if “X” is true for you to believe that your true in your conviction for the death penalty, if you feel that the kidnapper and murderer killed your child.
Siuli: I applaud your courage to express your opinions. Obviously, the fact that one is attracted to someone of his own sex doesn't mean that person is not capable of being a moral person, even a Christian. Now this is not accepted worldwide, just the same way that many people believe that women should be subservient to men. That's why is so important to be able to argue and defend our beliefs.
Suppose you believe "X" (which happens to be important for you). (a) Do you care if you have a justification for it? (b) Do you care if "X" is true? In your answer, try to think of a real-life example.
The answers to these questions, (for me), really depend on the situation in question. For example, if a man is being trialed for murder, with the risk of being sentenced to death, than I don't care for justification, as longs as X is true. But, my cat Obi Wan is the love of my life. I tell myself and the people around me that he loves me the same. My justification is(other than he has no choice) the affection he shows me by snuggling with me and with his kisses. Do I want to know if X is true or not, ABSOLUTELY NOT!, it would destroy me. Though, I would (personally) feel like an idiot to find out something I believe for so long, is actually a lie.
First of all, I don't believe anything that has not been justified. Just because I believe an argument does not make the case to be true. Justifications make the argument true and eliminate any reasonable doubt that I have. I can tell anyone that I believe inn God, If I don’t have anything to prove that he in fact does exist I’m not really saying nothing to them at all. I don’t have the truth so all I can do is use the best explanation that justifies my belief. For example, the world had to be design by a great hand in order for everything to perfectly arrange as they do. We had to be created from dust because when we have no more life we just turn right back to the dust that we are. Eve had to come from Adam ribs which explain why female has one more ribs than men.
All of all assignments I had in my life, this is the hardest one. First of all, for me to believe in x it needs to give me strong and sound arguments of why I should believe in x. I don't believe in people, there's no way I can conduct a brain scan, so there's no way I'm able to say until what circumstances they are expressing their thoughts and feelings truthfully. About the topics you posted, I have opinions in all of them, but I don't really care. I mean, if it's not going to change my life, why should I care? Gay marriage: makes no difference for me if they are getting married or not. Global warming: I don't think I will be here until the end, besides it happened before and will probably happen again. Prostitution: I mean, aren't we free to do whatever we want? Death penalty: I don't think is the best solution for a criminal, however, I wouldn't do anything to change that law. Marijuana legalization: I don't even think there's a need to legalize it. There's only concrete believe I have and the only thing I really believe is God. But you said not to use God for the sake of this assignment. So, I will make the assignment without using my personal thoughts or belief. Supposing I believe death penalty is wrong. Of course I care if I have a justification for my belief. In this case my justification would be that killing is wrong. I would care if x is true, because I wouldn’t like to believe in a false x. So both my justification and believe are true, killing is wrong, if killing is wrong death penalty is wrong. Now I don’t think I would find concrete explanation, I mean facts, to support my justification. Killing is wrong is an opinion, not a fact, specially when it comes to different cultures.
Two people can be looking at the same thing, but interpret it in two completely different ways. So a person's justification on something can be enough for them to believe it, but may not be enough for me, or maybe my justification is the complete opposite than theirs, or maybe it's the same and enough for them but still not me. Like for example, I could be looking at a piece of art and see a house with a cat, but friend sees a family in their home. So imagine in a more serious situation both my friend and I can have the same justification for something but a different conclusion. So I don't know if justification really means anything in the end, as long as we know if what ever X is, is true or false.
If I believe in "x" and believe it is a good cause or influences positive ideas then I do not need Justification. I do not need to justify why i believe in something, due to the fact that no one owns me and i have my own thoughts and opinions.Free will all the way -Joel Gonzalez
Suppose you believe "X" (which happens to be important for you). (a) Do you care if you have a justification for it? (b) Do you care if "X" is true? In your answer, try to think of a real-life example
In order to beleive "X" you must have a justification for it, if not, then why have a belief. Everything happens for a reason. There is an effect to every cause.. You need to know "why" ("WHY" is the magic word) things happen. Without it, you have no knowledge. You will just blindly follow any order to recieve just because someone has told you that something "x" is true. We would be mindless puppets. We must ask why, and reason. Asking why, gives us justification. Many laws have been changed because back then people believed that they were right, such as guns, drugs, sex, death penalty, etc. Now we know why there arent so "right" in the first place. To give a good example, Slavery. Back then if you wasn't white, you were a slave. They believed that you were inferior. Slavery was legal. There was no justification of why it was wrong, nor why was it right. Same as for woman's rights.
I don’t believe that death penalty is a real solution for anyone. I do care about my justification for these kind of topics and I believe there's no point with death penalty. It hasn't reduce the crime rate at any level. Today, with all the economical and social problems that we are facing, violence is notably increasing. If some of my children were victims of any kind of crime or even murder I would wish that person stays in prison forever, isolated and without his freedom. I think that's enough. At the age of 16 my best friend was killed on his way home from schoool because he didn't have any money in his pockets. I know what loosing an important person means, but I don't think death is the solution. Death is the easiest way to get away with what you do! And besides who are we -society, humans- to take away other's human life? You can't undone what is done... and looking from the other side...what if that person's innocent?
You have choices.If you comit the crime intentionally, live with it. You deserve to live with restricted rights. If you happen to be the unfortunate victim, what's done is done. I am not saying you have to be cold and rational(because there are crimes and CRIMES), but nothing you can do can rewind time when something is done to a person you love.
I used to have many beliefs, before I suffered through a life destroying event and took a closer look at my life. Now I have chosen to suspend most, ok nearly all, of my beliefs. The only belief I still hold onto is that love is never wrong. My justification for supporting gay marriage is because I truly 100% believe that love is free from conditions, boundaries, limits, and exceptions. I believe marriage is something that should be open to any kind of couple because love is beautiful even if the relationship is between two men or two women. I am a very blunt person, I say everything the way it is and the only arguments I’ve heard over and over again about denying gay couples the right to marry is ridiculous! In a democracy church and State are separate, yet the main argument is “gays are an abomination upon the lord”. Who gives a shit what a fictional book says? The State shouldn’t. But the voters are irrational and ignorant. They don’t understand that love, true love knows no boundaries and no limits, and so they deny gay couples the right to marry. I believe that love is never wrong and I have yet to be shown any other argument that makes sense to me. My brother is gay, and he has been in a relationship with my brother in law since 2004. That’s five years, and never once have they broken up, or come close to breaking up, not even when their relationship was long distance. They’ve never cheated on each other, and yes, they have had arguments like every other couple, but they love each other. So why can’t they get married? Straight couples can barely last a year without one of the partners cheating, and yet they get married and they get divorced like they’re drinking water. Why can’t my brothers do the same? Gay marriage should be legal globally. Love is never wrong.
If I believe in "x" and believe it is a good cause or influences positive ideas then I do not need Justification. I do not need to justify why i believe in something, due to the fact that no one owns me and i have my own thoughts and opinions.Free will all the way
And you are not justifying the above justification???
So a person's justification on something can be enough for them to believe it, but may not be enough for me, or maybe my justification is the complete opposite than theirs, or maybe it's the same and enough for them but still not me.
Margo: I'm not sure I follow you. The fact that we have different opinions and beliefs is really an asset, not a liability.
I am hugely against prostitution. I think its wrong for a woman or a man to sell their bodies for drugs,sex, or any material gain; whether it could be for clothes, getting hair done, nails, or just for the money. We as humans should have values of our bodies and show respect to ourselves. Many die every year because of diseases or brutal physical abuse. I just feel prostitution degrades a person's integrity and self-esteem. Everyone is entitled to their opinions but this is just what I think.
Lets say I grew up in England in the late 1580's in which my surroundings and outside influences lead me to believe X.(X = THE WORLD IS FLAT )
Now, Sir Francis Drake returns from his legendary first trip around the world and dispels all doubt surrounding the theory that the world is spherical. Or better yet, Lets say I was "On" the voyage that circumnavigated the globe. Not only is the world indeed spherical but to put the icing on the cake I had seen this new evidence with my own eyes. How can I not believe that X has been, and is false?
Do I really still believe in X? No. Do I care whether X is true or not? Absolutely.
Now not everyone needs justifications to believe in something. And for some that may be okay. However, speaking for myself... I like to know that my beliefs and or values line up with facts and or "the best explanations to the justifying evidence".
You can compare this example to many things today. Would you really want to be believe in X with out true justification or the best explanation to the evidence presented? or are you holding on to a belief because of pride? fear? years of conditioning?
When we see a criminal or any one responsible of a wrongful act get punished, most of would say he/she deserved it. I never been a believer of karma but I've always believed in probability. Lets say for example a homeless man finds a $20.00 bill on the sidewalk. Did the dollar just appear there because karma believed he deserved it? Did the right sequence of events take place so the homeless man could posses the money? Is that what karma intended for the man since his life treated him unfairly? or is it possible that those state of affairs happened due to someone accidently dropping the money, when pulling a wallet out of their pocket. It so happens that the homeless man was the first one to see the money after it was lost. This gave him a high "Probability" of confiscating the money. If a theif constantly steals the "chances" are he may get caught one day. It varies depending on how he executes his heist. Everything has a probability of happening, some have higher chances than others. I'm sure you have gotten away with wrongful acts through out your lifetime. Still til this day you haven't been held accountble for those actions. your probability of getting caught may been insignificant or the action may have been plotted very thoughtfully, despite the high risk. If karma was real you would have been held accountable for those actions, and probably even punished. probability to me makes more sense beyond a reasonable doubt and that's why I prefer believing it, rather than karma.
If I think that x is important to me, then yes I would care enough to have justification for it. I could justify why I believe in something that maybe true to me but might not be true to others. But in some cases some points don’t need to be justified like a drug addict/dealer. If a drug addict gets caught using or selling drugs his/her justification is not needed at times because it’s illegal to sell or use drugs in the U.S. Let’s just say that the drug addict justify why he/she did what he did. He/she did what they did because it was an easy way to get money and causes them less stress. Well that person took a chance with using and dealing drugs so they got caught and thrown in jail. The drug dealer could do all the justification he or she wants like in the 5th sentence but it really doesn’t matter because they know it was wrong but they did it anyways. A group of drug dealers do believe that drug dealing and using gets the job done in all situations but with others they won’t find that true. So no matter what the drug dealer do to defend himself he’s still going to be thrown in jail. But if he/she stated in court that “I was forced into drug dealing he pin pointed a gun to my head and threatened me.” Now if the drug dealer went further into describing the gun pointed to his/her head and the person who did it the drug dealer might get off easy or sent to jail for not too long. So when justifying something we should always try to find a good explanation and if it isn’t good enough try to not give up and find a better one to make it true so it the other individual could understand and maybe find it possibly true on what you’re justifying.
Suppose you believe "X" (which happens to be important for you). (a) Do you care if you have a justification for it? (b) Do you care if "X" is true? In your answer, try to think of a real-life example.
If I believe X to be true (something important to me) I do care if I have a justification for it, because if it was that important to me I would want justification before I believed it to be true. without justification I would not believe it in the first place, and I would care if X was true because why would I want to believe something that wasn't.
For example I believe that (X) marijuana should be a legalized substance because science proves it not to be any more harmful than tobacco or alcohol and if those two substances are legal than marijuana should be too. This is a valid and sound argument that justifies my belief therefor X is true.
It is known that marriages are about family. Traditionally, a family constitutes of a father as man, a mother as woman and children as the fruit of their love. In a typical family, the father is the head of the household, the provider, the role model, and the mother is the care giver, the advisor and the counsel. That is the ideal image of a family in a society and what many consider valuable. Many cultures value that marriage is about a man and a woman with the privilege of procreation. On the other hand, in a gay family we all know that is hard to achieve if not impossible. Several can argue that there is the option of insemination when we talk about lesbians and adoption when we talk about gays. All of these is true and possible; however, is it the way it’s normally supposed to be? The values sent down to the next generation would change. Men would play the role of women and vice versa. And that would be considered to be normal. Once a value is devalued then the individual and the society, as a whole, suffers. Furthermore, in my opinion we are anatomically made for a purpose. A woman has to external canals. One is for sexual activity and the other one for excretion. On the other hand, well….man go figure….there’s only one “hole”, and a “Stick” for sexual purposes. I consider that’s the normal course of how things should be and that we were made the way we are for a purpose. M.O.
1- Suppose you believe "X" (which happens to be important for you). (a) Do you care if you have a justification for it? (b) Do you care if "X" is true? In your answer, try to think of a real-life example.
2- I Think That If I Believe In "X" And This Is Really, But Really Important For Me; Then Obviously I Must Have A Really Good Justification To Make It Important For Me. Yes In My Opinion "X" Must Be True To Be Importatnt For Me...
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to M.O.: what kind of world do you live in? a world with fantasies and fairytales and happily ever afters? what is normal? and are you sure that it's a good definition for your "normal"?
Possible my manner of thinking about death penalty might seem cruel, but it's important to me that you understand my reasoning in regard to this issue. Epecially cases of murder and kidnapping/sexual violation, which are even worse when children are involved.? Currently, there is an actual case of a Coral Gables (hight school) student killed another.What possible motives could exist, and by what right does anyone have to take the life of someone dust beginning to live? These crimes not only destroy the families of the victims, but of the pertetrators as well. I belive the death penalty provides closure of the phrase,"of an eye for an eye" for the relatives and friends. Also, of an eliminates the very great risk of the muder/radist after serving his sentence being free to kill again and again. It is verry easy and convenient to ask to be pardoned and/or forgiven after the act.Even after apology is sincery, it wont restore the life that was taken away so callously. Another example: a man kidnapped an eleven year old little girl and kept them locked up while violating her for eighten years.He not only deprived her of innocence and childhood, but her future as well. Insted of a normal life, I'm certain she suffered during the whole ordeal-there is no exscuse for this depraved behavior. Just imagine the fear and trauma which she endured for so long during her captivity.Is recovery possible? Dont they deserve the death penalty?
Some things in the world are so important to people that they become advocates of the cause, rallying and petitioning, while others pay no mind. When it comes to things that don't directly affect me, i too pay no mind. Legallizing marijuana happens to be one of them, however when I have an opinion on something, I stand by it. Marijuana is in essance a plant, not a drug. It's effects are minimal, not life threatening and short term. There are no facts that state that "weed" is detrimental to your health and can lead to death. It makes some smokers sleepy, lazy or silly, so what? If marijuana is illegal based on health risks, than cigaretts should be banned. People die of lung cancer everyday, yet marijuana claims how many lung cancer victims? Cigaretts can cause harm to others through 2nd hand smoke, while marijuana 2nd hand smoke places others in no harm. Smoking during pregnancy can lead to child developement issues and what of marijuana? I have morals though, I don't think it's okay for a 13 yr. old to smoke. The line must be drawn somewhere and thats where legalization comes in. Make marijuana use legal for 21 or older. Bottom line is, marijuana exists, people will smoke it, just set boundaries.
Triff my first post is about a week old, and it was rather abstract so I'll try again now.
Let's take animal research. A lot of people are for it and a lot of peaple are against it. Factually speaking without it many of our modern comforts would not exist. It is my belief that animal research is an integral part of our society and of scientific advancement. My justification is that animal models commonly mimic human models wether it be in pain studies, behaviour studies, and generally anything else; as such they are crucial for our better understanding of the world. This summer I worked in a lab where animal research was involved. It was a study(still on going) on neuropathic pain and the alleviation/cure thereof. There is no way a scientist would ever get a green light to try any of his hypothesis on a human without there having been animal tests that provided reliable data.
I believe that if it's for the greater good, animal testing is justified. That's not to say that I condone random testing of animals for mere enjoyment or curiosity. There must be a genuine need for it in order for testing on any living thing to be justified. In this case justification outweighs truth.
P.S. If any one in the class is going to hate on me for taking part in animal research I just want to state that there are strict regulations on the proper and humane treatment of animals and I had to pass like 20 tests to be able to be allowed to even have contact with the animals.
If "X" is important to me, then I do not need justification because in order for me to classify something as important, it would be because it has already been justified.
I believe that gay rights are human rights because, all humans have different interests in a very wide variety of topics and emotions. there is no reason for humans to have to fight for something that is natural. Of course, not everyone has the same interests but being Gay does not have to mean that you have no rights. Gays are just as human as heterosexuals so all rights should apply to Gays.
I dont think that x has to be true in order for me to believe in it. As long as I feel deep inside that the justification is strong enough and worth believing in, I will care about it regardless of the facts. One example of to explain my opinion is how I believe in God. Not one person in this world has proven that God exist. I dont think it might be possible to provit with real evidence, like pictures, etc. But I do have a strong believe that God exist. The justification for my belief is that more often than not, God answers to my prayers.
I believe that every belief should have a justification, but, that doesn’t mean that the justification is necessarily true. In the world, there is no existence of a unique truth as a result of the existence of perceptions. Are your perceptions of life equal to my perceptions of life? The only way of achieving that situation would be by shearing the same thoughts and feelings. Thoughts and feelings are aspects gain through personal experiences in life. The justification to my belief is that after each human being turn 3 years old, the “sponge effect” begins. Through every experience an individual passes through, there is sort kind of data that we obtain as outcome. Personally, I found outcome as the data that every individual storage in that “sponge” most known as brain, creating what we call -DATA BASE (which among the time it end up being full of thoughts and feelings)… To perceive is a process divided in two separate parts. First, is to observe the world through our senses, and second, is the segment of giving a meaning to whatever we obtained through those senses, this part of the process consist in analyze the observed through our thoughts and feelings by comparing the obtained information with the processed information gained in the past (storage in our DATA BASE). The new question that comes up to my mind is… Are our thoughts and feelings changeable after the information has been already stored in our DATA BASE?…I believe so, and my justification is that after having those thoughts and feelings set up; the only way of changing them is through having a stronger experience that would give us a stronger “truth” by having a stronger justification that the one we had before.
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Suppose you believe "X" (which happens to be important for you). (a) Do you care if you have a justification for it? (b) Do you care if "X" is true? In your answer, try to think of a real-life example.
hi,
I probably not care at first, but that is because I'm more of a feeling person than of a thinking person. I mean do not get me wrong it's not that i will not care, it is just that sometimes is not worth the justification, because like I said before I feel before I think.
Marimar: Nice, feelings are Ok. But for the sake of this assignment, I need more thinking and less feeling.
Well I believe in free will and as for justification, I personally think there is. But even if there wasn’t I would still like to believe there is and I would be frustrated to know for sure that I cannot change the way my life is going. I am not saying that we can control everything in our lives but we make choices then we deal with the consequences of our actions.
Miguel: You're saying that even if you didn't have a justification you'd like to believe there is one.
Is there a possibility of self-deceit? And then, how to avoid that possibility?
Well there is always some of that, self-deceit, as we said in class people see what they want to see. I try to face reality but some things are hard to face even when the evidence is staring you in the face. And the only way to change it is to accept the truth no matter how offensive it is then try and rebuild your reality to the new information.
hi,
i'm going to share something very true to me, and I'm still trying to accept the justification for it.
The night of the day before my son died, I spend it following his father and trying to work things out between us and from there went straight to work. anyway, the point is that I never imagin that I will received a phone call telling me that my new born son died while sleeping. So now you tell me what justification is there. The fact that the only thing for certain is death. or the fact that it does not only happen to me. you see i realize that day and from there on that "we" I need to believe that there is more after dead or I would go crazy thinking WHY ME?
I also took this experience as a lesson and realize that we are nothing but illusions, one day we are here the very next second we are gone. and yet I still believe that not all needs justification to be (MY)true.
If i believe in "X" then it has to have some kind of justification for it to make sense. How can something be not true and important?? My grandmother told me everything in life happens for a reason, and everything in life has a reason. so if i cant justify it then it cant exist because as a human being i need to justify all things so that ill have a clear understanding of life. So i care about the truth because life is too real.
Marimar, thanks for sharing your moving -and personal- story with us.
Expanding on what Marimar said, I believe in death for a greater good. When my sister was 5 she was diagnosed with leukemia. She battled the disease for two years; enduring the chemotherapy and several surgeries. Shortly before her death she was in a great deal of pain. I believed that her death came as peace to her and my family and ended her long suffering. Although many people believe that there is no justification for death, in some instances it is our last hope at peace.
Three year's ago my older cousin got married to her husband. Prior to their engagement they were together for five years. Usually the first year of marriage is typically the best. They were deeply in love I had no doubt that they were meant to be together. In their second year of marriage my cousin became pregant, but the issue didn't occur until her husband got into some problems and was incarcerated for two nights and three days. She did everthing in her will and power to get him out of jail. In my point of view thats what I call a great wife. A week after he got out he decides that he wanted out of what they were trying to create what they called a family. I would always ask why would he do such a thing and abandon and mislead his wife and leave her for someone else after all she's done for him. I believe that there should be justification to why he left.
I would always ask why would he do such a thing and abandon and mislead his wife and leave her for someone else after all she's done for him. I believe that there should be justification to why he left.
An interesting philosophical problem. And what's your answer?
If I believe "x" and it is important to me. It is more than likely that I can justify it at least to myself, and as long as I have that justification wether or not "X" is true is at least momentarily irrelevent. As Human Beings sometimes being justified sufices in place of truth if at least only momentarily.
I strongly belief that keeping dolphins (or any other animal) in captivity is wrong.
People admire dolphins because of their high intelligence, their great communication system and respect them because they are, just as humans self-conscious.
In our ‘love’ for them we smother them and force them in being something they are not.
Our ‘love’ is not real love because real love is not selfish and not destroying.
We keep them from being free and pull them away from their family, friends and natural environment.
We say that kidnapping a child (or any human being) is morally wrong.
It is wrong because a human being has feelings, has the right to freedom and suffers from captivity because he’s SELF-CONSCIOUS.
A dolphin has feelings has the right to freedom and suffers from its captivity because he is a SELF CONSIOUS-BEING!
I will let statistics speak for themselves in the few next examples, which have been proved scientifically:
1) 53% of those dolphins who survive the violent capture die within 90 days.
The average life span of a dolphin in the wild is 45 years; yet half of all captured dolphins die within their first two years of captivity. The survivors last an average of only 5 years in captivity.
2) Every seven years, half of all dolphins in captivity die from capture shock, pneumonia, intestinal disease, ulcers, chlorine poisoning, and other stress-related illnesses. To the captive dolphin industry, these facts are accepted as routine operating expenses.
3) In many tanks the water is full of chemicals as well as bacteria, causing many health problems in dolphins including blindness.
4) When a baby dolphin is born in captivity, the news is usually kept secret until the calf shows signs of survival. Although marine mammals do breed in captivity, the birth rate is not nearly as successful as the one in the wild, with high infant mortality rates.
These are just a few among many many examples of harm we do to dolphins, keeping them in captivity.
Dolphins (and all the other animals) should be kept out of the prison called the zoo, or any other form of captivity.
Suppose you believe "X" (which happens to be important for you). (a) Do you care if you have a justification for it? (b) Do you care if "X" is true? In your answer, try to think of a real-life example.
If I believe in X and it's important to me, I probably wouldn't care rather or not if the justification is true or not as long as there's an explanation stating "why such and such happen?" or something explaining "How they got to that conclusion?" I've learned in life that people don't really care if what they do to others is "right or wrong", " true or false" as long as they accomplish what they were set out to do.
Agaia: Good point. I'm glad you turn the thread away from familiar stuff and more into other issues. Let's follow beliefs such as euthanasia, death penalty, etc.
I believe that there is always a brighter side of things. I am one of those people who are usually happy almost all of the time. I never really let anything bother me, even in some hard situation. The subject of the conditions in which I was conceived was always something I wondered about but never really asked. See my father lives in New York with a whole other family, wife and kids the whole sha-bang, but I live with my mother here in Miami since I left New York at the age of 4. I’ve known about him and talked to him through out my life, as well I knew of his other family. One day when I was about to turn 18 I come to find out that I was a secret. All of my other siblings, I being the youngest, had never knew I existed. What was I to think? Some might be upset but not me. Whether my belief is justified or true really doesn’t matter to me, I still hold true that there is more good in this world then bad.
hi,
I believed that a man that rapes and kills children once found guilty should be killed and put out of their miserable life. I find no justification for someone like this. I don’t care for a justification. some doctors sees them as sick, and some argue that it is not their fault that they were once abused too, so that should in some way justify their crimes. I don’t care if they were abuse or beaten by whoever all I know is that they deserve the dead penalty. There was an error when this species were created. I don’t believe in dead penalty, only I do when it comes to this type of crime. This is important to me because I have children, so I will stand by this believe. And the fact that I have children is my justification.
That's pretty brave Rosemary. Thanks for sharing your story.
When confronted with things beyond my understanding I tend to find refuge in the beliefs that comfort me. It does not have to be justified or even true to others beside myself. As long as I can find some clarity in what I believe, that is suitable for me. This was the case when I was told that someone important to me was diagnosed with cancer. I wondered why a person I loved deeply had to confront such a life threatening illness. I found peace in the belief that things happen for a reason and that she wouldn't be put through anything that she couldn't handle. Though this belief may be untrue it set my soul at ease and helped me maintain a positive outlook and that is all that truly mattered to me.
Well...before I get to my point, there's a brief story that ties into this...a few weeks ago, or maybe months ago, I had a conversation with my friend in the car. We had actually just finished our afternoon class that ends at 9pm and had a bite to eat at the McDonalds. We end up walking into the middle of what looked like a session of some group gathering. And the leader of this thing was an old friend of mine from highschool((who by the way I had a huge crush on then)). I briefly catch up with him but then realize that we're kinda inturrupting his group session. So we ask what was that they were doing? It ended up being a Christian youth group thing, which is great, I was in youth group at my church and very much involved in it, but they're views on Christianity did not meet mine at all. He had invited and insisted for us to sit with them, we did, I just chose not to say anything((and I remembered why I stopped having a crush on this guy)). I did ask him some stuff after the session was over, my friend and I, and he eventually invited us to continue accidentally walking through his group sessions. My friend thought it cool, and me being nice I said sure, maybe...we didn't. We showed up I think((accidentally and pretending we completely forgot they were meeting Tuesday nights)) just 'cause he's cute. So in the car on the way home, of course we talked about it. And before though I go any further I would like to apologize before hand to those that may read this and be offended by it. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and we are in 2009. I believe in Christ, therefore I am a Christian. However I do not go to the extremities that he is my savior, I have to worship him, and if I don't I'll go to hell, blah, blah, blah. I have been going to the same church since I was 4 or so; it is a Christian church, a nondenominational Christian church studying the metaphysics of the bible and the acceptance of all religions inorder to spiritually grow; and having perhaps 68% of the congregation being gay. And since I grew up in this church, my mother also being a stylist at the time, I also grew up and was open to the gay population((and perhaps that brushed off on me a bit)). So...back in the car, my friend says something like in the bible it says that homosexuality is wrong. She says she absolutely knows its wrong therefore she must believe it to be wrong as well. And of course then she must also think that I, myself am wrong as well. Yet she adores me and values our friendship, and has other friends that are gay too. So she must think they're "wrong" too? I am a Christian. I am also in love with someone who happens to be the same sex as me. I believe that love is love. I know I am still very young and may be naive to what "love" is. However you can't deny what you have a stand for and what you believe in. If I am wrong, and to some, or even a lot, I may in fact be wrong((sux ass but true)), in this case I do not care of it to be true.
In all respect, some people have justifications and true beliefs for what they believe in and what they don’t. I believe that the death penalty is wrong no matter how you put it. Let’s say for instance, that a kidnapper hypothetically speaking, kidnapped, raped, and murdered your child, and the prosecution opted for the death penalty of that kidnapper and murderer, would you stand by it and let it happen? I wouldn’t because to me that is immoral. Two wrongs don’t make a right, why would you want to put the kidnappers’ mother in the same position that you were once in, knowing that your child was murdered, why would you want to cause the same heartache and pain to that mother, in which you felt once before. Killing the kidnapper is not going to give you justification for killing him, nor will it bring your child back. No matter what your true belief maybe, you’re committing the same crime in which he committed, “murder,” but you’re getting away with it, because you feel justified in your convictions. It doesn’t matter if “X” is true for you to believe that your true in your conviction for the death penalty, if you feel that the kidnapper and murderer killed your child.
Siuli: I applaud your courage to express your opinions. Obviously, the fact that one is attracted to someone of his own sex doesn't mean that person is not capable of being a moral person, even a Christian. Now this is not accepted worldwide, just the same way that many people believe that women should be subservient to men. That's why is so important to be able to argue and defend our beliefs.
Suppose you believe "X" (which happens to be important for you). (a) Do you care if you have a justification for it? (b) Do you care if "X" is true? In your answer, try to think of a real-life example.
The answers to these questions, (for me), really depend on the situation in question. For example, if a man is being trialed for murder, with the risk of being sentenced to death, than I don't care for justification, as longs as X is true.
But, my cat Obi Wan is the love of my life. I tell myself and the people around me that he loves me the same. My justification is(other than he has no choice) the affection he shows me by snuggling with me and with his kisses. Do I want to know if X is true or not, ABSOLUTELY NOT!, it would destroy me. Though, I would (personally) feel like an idiot to find out something I believe for so long, is actually a lie.
Margo: I can tell you love your cat. But can you address a different believe that that of your love for your cat?
First of all, I don't believe anything that has not been justified. Just because I believe an argument does not make the case to be true. Justifications make the argument true and eliminate any reasonable doubt that I have. I can tell anyone that I believe inn God, If I don’t have anything to prove that he in fact does exist I’m not really saying nothing to them at all. I don’t have the truth so all I can do is use the best explanation that justifies my belief. For example, the world had to be design by a great hand in order for everything to perfectly arrange as they do. We had to be created from dust because when we have no more life we just turn right back to the dust that we are. Eve had to come from Adam ribs which explain why female has one more ribs than men.
Mesidor: Can we change that subject?
All of all assignments I had in my life, this is the hardest one. First of all, for me to believe in x it needs to give me strong and sound arguments of why I should believe in x. I don't believe in people, there's no way I can conduct a brain scan, so there's no way I'm able to say until what circumstances they are expressing their thoughts and feelings truthfully. About the topics you posted, I have opinions in all of them, but I don't really care. I mean, if it's not going to change my life, why should I care? Gay marriage: makes no difference for me if they are getting married or not. Global warming: I don't think I will be here until the end, besides it happened before and will probably happen again. Prostitution: I mean, aren't we free to do whatever we want? Death penalty: I don't think is the best solution for a criminal, however, I wouldn't do anything to change that law. Marijuana legalization: I don't even think there's a need to legalize it.
There's only concrete believe I have and the only thing I really believe is God. But you said not to use God for the sake of this assignment. So, I will make the assignment without using my personal thoughts or belief.
Supposing I believe death penalty is wrong. Of course I care if I have a justification for my belief. In this case my justification would be that killing is wrong. I would care if x is true, because I wouldn’t like to believe in a false x. So both my justification and believe are true, killing is wrong, if killing is wrong death penalty is wrong. Now I don’t think I would find concrete explanation, I mean facts, to support my justification. Killing is wrong is an opinion, not a fact, specially when it comes to different cultures.
Two people can be looking at the same thing, but interpret it in two completely different ways. So a person's justification on something can be enough for them to believe it, but may not be enough for me, or maybe my justification is the complete opposite than theirs, or maybe it's the same and enough for them but still not me. Like for example, I could be looking at a piece of art and see a house with a cat, but friend sees a family in their home. So imagine in a more serious situation both my friend and I can have the same justification for something but a different conclusion. So I don't know if justification really means anything in the end, as long as we know if what ever X is, is true or false.
If I believe in "x" and believe it is a good cause or influences positive ideas then I do not need Justification. I do not need to justify why i believe in something, due to the fact that no one owns me and i have my own thoughts and opinions.Free will all the way
-Joel Gonzalez
Suppose you believe "X" (which happens to be important for you). (a) Do you care if you have a justification for it? (b) Do you care if "X" is true? In your answer, try to think of a real-life example
In order to beleive "X" you must have a justification for it, if not, then why have a belief. Everything happens for a reason. There is an effect to every cause.. You need to know "why" ("WHY" is the magic word) things happen. Without it, you have no knowledge. You will just blindly follow any order to recieve just because someone has told you that something "x" is true. We would be mindless puppets. We must ask why, and reason. Asking why, gives us justification. Many laws have been changed because back then people believed that they were right, such as guns, drugs, sex, death penalty, etc. Now we know why there arent so "right" in the first place. To give a good example, Slavery. Back then if you wasn't white, you were a slave. They believed that you were inferior. Slavery was legal. There was no justification of why it was wrong, nor why was it right. Same as for woman's rights.
I don’t believe that death penalty is a real solution for anyone. I do care about my justification for these kind of topics and I believe there's
no point with death penalty. It hasn't reduce the crime rate at any level. Today, with all the economical and social
problems that we are facing, violence is notably increasing. If some of my children were victims of any kind of crime or even murder
I would wish that person stays in prison forever, isolated and without his freedom. I think that's enough. At the age of 16 my best friend was killed on his
way home from schoool because he didn't have any money in his pockets. I know what loosing an important person means, but I don't think death is the solution.
Death is the easiest way to get away with what you do! And besides who are we -society, humans- to take away other's human life?
You can't undone what is done... and looking from the other side...what if that person's innocent?
You have choices.If you comit the crime intentionally, live with it. You deserve to live with restricted rights. If you happen to be the unfortunate victim,
what's done is done. I am not saying you have to be cold and rational(because there are crimes and CRIMES), but nothing you can do can rewind time when
something is done to a person you love.
I used to have many beliefs, before I suffered through a life destroying event and took a closer look at my life. Now I have chosen to suspend most, ok nearly all, of my beliefs. The only belief I still hold onto is that love is never wrong. My justification for supporting gay marriage is because I truly 100% believe that love is free from conditions, boundaries, limits, and exceptions. I believe marriage is something that should be open to any kind of couple because love is beautiful even if the relationship is between two men or two women. I am a very blunt person, I say everything the way it is and the only arguments I’ve heard over and over again about denying gay couples the right to marry is ridiculous! In a democracy church and State are separate, yet the main argument is “gays are an abomination upon the lord”. Who gives a shit what a fictional book says? The State shouldn’t. But the voters are irrational and ignorant. They don’t understand that love, true love knows no boundaries and no limits, and so they deny gay couples the right to marry. I believe that love is never wrong and I have yet to be shown any other argument that makes sense to me. My brother is gay, and he has been in a relationship with my brother in law since 2004. That’s five years, and never once have they broken up, or come close to breaking up, not even when their relationship was long distance. They’ve never cheated on each other, and yes, they have had arguments like every other couple, but they love each other. So why can’t they get married? Straight couples can barely last a year without one of the partners cheating, and yet they get married and they get divorced like they’re drinking water. Why can’t my brothers do the same? Gay marriage should be legal globally. Love is never wrong.
Michelle Santos
If I believe in "x" and believe it is a good cause or influences positive ideas then I do not need Justification. I do not need to justify why i believe in something, due to the fact that no one owns me and i have my own thoughts and opinions.Free will all the way
And you are not justifying the above justification???
Joel, you can do better than this.
So a person's justification on something can be enough for them to believe it, but may not be enough for me, or maybe my justification is the complete opposite than theirs, or maybe it's the same and enough for them but still not me.
Margo: I'm not sure I follow you. The fact that we have different opinions and beliefs is really an asset, not a liability.
I am hugely against prostitution. I think its wrong for a woman or a man to sell their bodies for drugs,sex, or any material gain; whether it could be for clothes, getting hair done, nails, or just for the money. We as humans should have values of our bodies and show respect to ourselves. Many die every year because of diseases or brutal physical abuse. I just feel prostitution degrades a person's integrity and self-esteem. Everyone is entitled to their opinions but this is just what I think.
Lets say I grew up in England in the late 1580's in which my surroundings and outside influences lead me to believe X.(X = THE WORLD IS FLAT )
Now, Sir Francis Drake returns from his legendary first trip around the world and dispels all doubt surrounding the theory that the world is spherical. Or better yet, Lets say I was "On" the voyage that circumnavigated the globe. Not only is the world indeed spherical but to put the icing on the cake I had seen this new evidence with my own eyes. How can I not believe that X has been, and is false?
Do I really still believe in X? No. Do I care whether X is true or not? Absolutely.
Now not everyone needs justifications to believe in something. And for some that may be okay. However, speaking for myself... I like to know that my beliefs and or values line up with facts and or "the best explanations to the justifying evidence".
You can compare this example to many things today. Would you really want to be believe in X with out true justification or the best explanation to the evidence presented? or are you holding on to a belief because of pride? fear? years of conditioning?
Figure it out.
I hope this works Triff.
Edward Vilardell.
When we see a criminal or any one responsible of a wrongful act get punished, most of would say he/she deserved it. I never been a believer of karma but I've always believed in probability. Lets say for example a homeless man finds a $20.00 bill on the sidewalk. Did the dollar just appear there because karma believed he deserved it? Did the right sequence of events take place so the homeless man could posses the money? Is that what karma intended for the man since his life treated him unfairly? or is it possible that those state of affairs happened due to someone accidently dropping the money, when pulling a wallet out of their pocket. It so happens that the homeless man was the first one to see the money after it was lost. This gave him a high "Probability" of confiscating the money. If a theif constantly steals the "chances" are he may get caught one day. It varies depending on how he executes his heist. Everything has a probability of happening, some have higher chances than others. I'm sure you have gotten away with wrongful acts through out your lifetime. Still til this day you haven't been held accountble for those actions. your probability of getting caught may been insignificant or the action may have been plotted very thoughtfully, despite the high risk. If karma was real you would have been held accountable for those actions, and probably even punished. probability to me makes more sense beyond a reasonable doubt and that's why I prefer believing it, rather than karma.
If I think that x is important to me, then yes I would care enough to have justification for it. I could justify why I believe in something that maybe true to me but might not be true to others. But in some cases some points don’t need to be justified like a drug addict/dealer. If a drug addict gets caught using or selling drugs his/her justification is not needed at times because it’s illegal to sell or use drugs in the U.S. Let’s just say that the drug addict justify why he/she did what he did. He/she did what they did because it was an easy way to get money and causes them less stress. Well that person took a chance with using and dealing drugs so they got caught and thrown in jail. The drug dealer could do all the justification he or she wants like in the 5th sentence but it really doesn’t matter because they know it was wrong but they did it anyways. A group of drug dealers do believe that drug dealing and using gets the job done in all situations but with others they won’t find that true. So no matter what the drug dealer do to defend himself he’s still going to be thrown in jail. But if he/she stated in court that “I was forced into drug dealing he pin pointed a gun to my head and threatened me.” Now if the drug dealer went further into describing the gun pointed to his/her head and the person who did it the drug dealer might get off easy or sent to jail for not too long. So when justifying something we should always try to find a good explanation and if it isn’t good enough try to not give up and find a better one to make it true so it the other individual could understand and maybe find it possibly true on what you’re justifying.
Suppose you believe "X" (which happens to be important for you). (a) Do you care if you have a justification for it? (b) Do you care if "X" is true? In your answer, try to think of a real-life example.
If I believe X to be true (something important to me) I do care if I have a justification for it, because if it was that important to me I would want justification before I believed it to be true. without justification I would not believe it in the first place, and I would care if X was true because why would I want to believe something that wasn't.
For example I believe that (X) marijuana should be a legalized substance because science proves it not to be any more harmful than tobacco or alcohol and if those two substances are legal than marijuana should be too. This is a valid and sound argument that justifies my belief therefor X is true.
Yo creo en la Euthanasia o finalizacion deliberada intencionalmente de la vida de un ser humano cuyo diagnóstico de la enfermedad que padece es irreversible y ha sido confirmado por varios médicos, a ello se le suman algunos casos de dolor o sufrimiento del individuo el cual no pude ser calmado por ningún medicamento. Soy consciente de que la vida es derecho fundamental, pero también creo que este derecho está articulado a una vida en la que si los sufrimientos no tinen posibilidad de eliminarse, si la vida no es el medio para transformar la naturaleza en pos de obtener los medios para vivir, ese derecho pierde valor, no tiene sentido; porque de hecho creo que la vida tiene sentido cuando podemos disfrutar de ella plenamente o hay alguien que nos puede ayudar a disfrutarla, como es el caso de aquellas personas con discapacidades que por si mismos no puden o no son conscientes de que pueden disfrutarla , pero que tienen a su alrededor a sus padres o a otras personas que les proporcionan los medios de una buena vida. Si el individuo se vuelve un lastre para su familia, para la sociedad, sinó le es posible aportar a la transformacion y al cambio social para su propio beneficio y el de sus familiares, pienso que tiene derecho a finalizar su ciclo vital en una forma digna y descanzar en paz.
Martha P
I am against Gay marriages.
It is known that marriages are about family. Traditionally, a family constitutes of a father as man, a mother as woman and children as the fruit of their love. In a typical family, the father is the head of the household, the provider, the role model, and the mother is the care giver, the advisor and the counsel. That is the ideal image of a family in a society and what many consider valuable. Many cultures value that marriage is about a man and a woman with the privilege of procreation. On the other hand, in a gay family we all know that is hard to achieve if not impossible. Several can argue that there is the option of insemination when we talk about lesbians and adoption when we talk about gays. All of these is true and possible; however, is it the way it’s normally supposed to be? The values sent down to the next generation would change. Men would play the role of women and vice versa. And that would be considered to be normal. Once a value is devalued then the individual and the society, as a whole, suffers. Furthermore, in my opinion we are anatomically made for a purpose. A woman has to external canals. One is for sexual activity and the other one for excretion. On the other hand, well….man go figure….there’s only one “hole”, and a “Stick” for sexual purposes. I consider that’s the normal course of how things should be and that we were made the way we are for a purpose.
M.O.
1- Suppose you believe "X" (which happens to be important for you). (a) Do you care if you have a justification for it? (b) Do you care if "X" is true? In your answer, try to think of a real-life example.
2- I Think That If I Believe In "X" And This Is Really, But Really Important For Me; Then Obviously I Must Have A Really Good Justification To Make It Important For Me. Yes In My Opinion "X" Must Be True To Be Importatnt For Me...
Carlos J Fernandez ((( EL CUBANO 305 )))
PHI 2010
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Cool, Michelle, Valentina.
Nice mind-bending point, Edward.
Cubano 305. You're going in circles. What's your point? Try to elaborate a paragraph.
to M.O.: what kind of world do you live in? a world with fantasies and fairytales and happily ever afters? what is normal? and are you sure that it's a good definition for your "normal"?
Possible my manner of thinking about death penalty might seem cruel, but it's important to me that you understand my reasoning in regard to this issue. Epecially cases of murder and kidnapping/sexual violation, which are even worse when children are involved.?
Currently, there is an actual case of a Coral Gables (hight school) student killed another.What possible motives could exist, and by what right does anyone have to take the life of someone dust beginning to live?
These crimes not only destroy the families of the victims, but of the pertetrators as well. I belive the death penalty provides closure of the phrase,"of an eye for an eye" for the relatives and friends. Also, of an eliminates the very great risk of the muder/radist after serving his sentence being free to kill again and again.
It is verry easy and convenient to ask to be pardoned and/or forgiven after the act.Even after apology is sincery, it wont restore the life that was taken away so callously.
Another example: a man kidnapped an eleven year old little girl and kept them locked up while violating her for eighten years.He not only deprived her of innocence and childhood, but her future as well. Insted of a normal life, I'm certain she suffered during the whole ordeal-there is no exscuse for this depraved behavior.
Just imagine the fear and trauma which she endured for so long during her captivity.Is recovery possible? Dont they deserve the death penalty?
Some things in the world are so important to people that they become advocates of the cause, rallying and petitioning, while others pay no mind. When it comes to things that don't directly affect me, i too pay no mind. Legallizing marijuana happens to be one of them, however when I have an opinion on something, I stand by it. Marijuana is in essance a plant, not a drug. It's effects are minimal, not life threatening and short term. There are no facts that state that "weed" is detrimental to your health and can lead to death. It makes some smokers sleepy, lazy or silly, so what? If marijuana is illegal based on health risks, than cigaretts should be banned. People die of lung cancer everyday, yet marijuana claims how many lung cancer victims? Cigaretts can cause harm to others through 2nd hand smoke, while marijuana 2nd hand smoke places others in no harm. Smoking during pregnancy can lead to child developement issues and what of marijuana? I have morals though, I don't think it's okay for a 13 yr. old to smoke. The line must be drawn somewhere and thats where legalization comes in. Make marijuana use legal for 21 or older. Bottom line is, marijuana exists, people will smoke it, just set boundaries.
Triff my first post is about a week old, and it was rather abstract so I'll try again now.
Let's take animal research. A lot of people are for it and a lot of peaple are against it. Factually speaking without it many of our modern comforts would not exist. It is my belief that animal research is an integral part of our society and of scientific advancement. My justification is that animal models commonly mimic human models wether it be in pain studies, behaviour studies, and generally anything else; as such they are crucial for our better understanding of the world.
This summer I worked in a lab where animal research was involved. It was a study(still on going) on neuropathic pain and the alleviation/cure thereof. There is no way a scientist would ever get a green light to try any of his hypothesis on a human without there having been animal tests that provided reliable data.
I believe that if it's for the greater good, animal testing is justified. That's not to say that I condone random testing of animals for mere enjoyment or curiosity. There must be a genuine need for it in order for testing on any living thing to be justified. In this case justification outweighs truth.
P.S. If any one in the class is going to hate on me for taking part in animal research I just want to state that there are strict regulations on the proper and humane treatment of animals and I had to pass like 20 tests to be able to be allowed to even have contact with the animals.
If "X" is important to me, then I do not need justification because in order for me to classify something as important, it would be because it has already been justified.
I believe that gay rights are human rights because, all humans have different interests in a very wide variety of topics and emotions. there is no reason for humans to have to fight for something that is natural. Of course, not everyone has the same interests but being Gay does not have to mean that you have no rights. Gays are just as human as heterosexuals so all rights should apply to Gays.
Shasyrin Martinez
I dont think that x has to be true in order for me to believe in it. As long as I feel deep inside that the justification is strong enough and worth believing in, I will care about it regardless of the facts. One example of to explain my opinion is how I believe in God. Not one person in this world has proven that God exist. I dont think it might be possible to provit with real evidence, like pictures, etc. But I do have a strong believe that God exist. The justification for my belief is that more often than not, God answers to my prayers.
I believe that every belief should have a justification, but, that doesn’t mean that the justification is necessarily true. In the world, there is no existence of a unique truth as a result of the existence of perceptions. Are your perceptions of life equal to my perceptions of life? The only way of achieving that situation would be by shearing the same thoughts and feelings. Thoughts and feelings are aspects gain through personal experiences in life. The justification to my belief is that after each human being turn 3 years old, the “sponge effect” begins. Through every experience an individual passes through, there is sort kind of data that we obtain as outcome. Personally, I found outcome as the data that every individual storage in that “sponge” most known as brain, creating what we call -DATA BASE (which among the time it end up being full of thoughts and feelings)… To perceive is a process divided in two separate parts. First, is to observe the world through our senses, and second, is the segment of giving a meaning to whatever we obtained through those senses, this part of the process consist in analyze the observed through our thoughts and feelings by comparing the obtained information with the processed information gained in the past (storage in our DATA BASE). The new question that comes up to my mind is… Are our thoughts and feelings changeable after the information has been already stored in our DATA BASE?…I believe so, and my justification is that after having those thoughts and feelings set up; the only way of changing them is through having a stronger experience that would give us a stronger “truth” by having a stronger justification that the one we had before.
Sebastian Velleman
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