Wednesday, February 17, 2010

T,R 9:50am

29 comments:

Arnulfo said...

to be honest, I am aware of what animals go through and all that, but I'm not going to starve myself or hinder my nutrition because of it. Instead, I'll just buy food that doesn't originate from the disgusting places (meat from naturally raised cows for example). But in the end, it's going to keep happening. It's all about supply and demand; a vicious cycle.

Alfredo Triff said...

Arnulfo, how do you reconclie these two: "It's all about supply and demand; a vicious cycle" and "I'm not going to starve myself because of it."

All of a sudden it sounded like you were living in Bangladesh.

Scarleth said...

I think it is Horrible what they are doing to farm animals. it's not right to put so many substances in them so they can grow faster and be ready by the day they are ready to terminate their life. All those things that they are putting in them are bad for us, I think farms that are selling this meat should take their time to produce a better quality meat instead of producing meat that took little time to get that way. Things done with patience always taste better. I personaly don't pay attention to the chicken I buy as long as it looks lean , grocery stores should put stickers on what is more natural meat.



-Scarleth Lazo

Anonymous said...

This is a very interesting topic that many remark as a necessary evil. Here's the catch: it's not. It's not a necessary evil so much as an issue that just needs much better regulation adjusted to it. The FDC is not nearly as strict as it needs to be towards these companies. Competing corporations place their prices extremely low relative to each other, but this leaves little room for farmers to be able to compete. There are more U.S. inmates in this country than farmers, but this is because the competition is far too intense for normal farmers to be able to subsist. This is what really needs to be handled, otherwise, it would totally be possible to raise animals in a natural way. You could have your cake and eat it, too.

Julie McConnell

Gloria said...

Factory farming has to be one of the cruelest things done to animals. Is wrong to put all the animals stuck together in one place and mistreat them. I believe animals do feel pain just as we do when we get hurt. It's not worth mistreating them and feeding them with substances when in the end is bad for us humans. In my case I prefer paying a few extra dollars but knowing that what I am eating is handled better.

Gloria Ayosa.

Anonymous said...

Animals have the ability to fell pain has human does. we cannot ignore the facts and close our eyes. We humans kill hundred of thousands of animals every years. most of them are done an inhumane way. I am not against the fact to kill the animals in oder to use their meats or to use them as products but I am all against the fact that we are torturing them. We humans have to treat them with more respect.I know that a lot of people don't care about the cows feelings because they just want a number 7 an MC Donald but we have to treat the more respect.

Steeve Philippe

Anonymous said...

Truthfully, I only eat kosher meat; So thank G-d I don't really have to deal with buying meat from these factories that are being disgusting to these animals. But to me, this is really just plain wrong. Humans are technically above the animal... so we will eventually eat the animal; but there is definitely a way to do things and then there is a way not to do things. The way that they are doing it is wrong... but once they do it correctly it will then be ok.

-Jacqueline Saka-

nicole said...

Wow how disgusting. The poor pigs are being crowded into factory pens and then slaughtered to be eaten and then we get sick (if we don't cook it right). My point here is that we can't say "aww that's so messed up" or "those poor pigs" because in the end we're just gonna go and eat pork or beef or chicken or whatever regardless of what we say (of course, exceptions exist). It would be pure hypocrisy to do that.

Now what else...oh yeah, if you can eat an animal then you're willing to kill it so don't give me that "I feel sorry for the animal but I'm going to eat it anyway" because that is BS.

Thank you for giving me your time :)

Tomas E. Pendola said...

This is not really news public awareness of the horrible conditions of animals in factory farms and slaughter houses has been on the rise since Upton Sinclair wrote his famous novel The Jungle in 1906. This problem has been present since the industrial revolution when food stopped being a necessity product in the United States and instead became a major consumer product. Since there really isn't major poverty in the united states and the lowest class here gets doesn't starve to death even in the worst of cases, food started to be mass produced to feed the needs of the rapidly growing demand due to the equally rapid growing population. There would be no problem with this except for the heinous lack of consideration for the animals. They were put into this horrible conditions because in the market they are looked upon as raw materials instead of sentient beings. Now that people have realized this and have come to realize that they aren't the center of the freaking universe they see the suffering of the animals and want it to change. However they don't want their food to get more expensive of they're eating habits to change. To this I have only one thing to say, TOUGH SHIT IT HAS TO. In order for there to be a better treatment of animals in the farming industry two things need to happen. First big corporations need to get less greedy (as if that will ever happen) and second the food will have to get slightly more expensive in order to cover the cost of this but what people don't realize is that a pound of meat costing a dollar more in the market not only will save animals a lot of suffering it will also improve human health by making the meat they eat more nutritious. So to sum up everyone wins animals get better treatment and therefore lives and people get better health and meat... now if we could only get past conglomerate greed the world could be just a little better for all levels of life.
Tomás E. Péndola

chrisgarces said...

Factory farming is very unethical; we have tured animals into products. Like Nikes on a convater belt, mass produced for consuption. As humans forget that we are animals well and if humans don't deserve such treatmant then either do our fellow animals. Humans have also become ungreatful; sure the animals aren't lining up to be slaughtered but, if not for them many would go hungry. Ainmals don't cease to be animails just cause we plan on eating them. I am not saying to stop eating animals; i am saying to respect, be thankful, and give them the treatment they deserve. No one can say that there is no other way to raise animals when i am sure that all these major corperations haven't even tried to do things differently.

Silvia Vargas said...

So frightening. I'm still wondering why the poor little piggies are soo huge, for what reason do we need more food? This is why americans are percieved as fatties because we eat so damn much. I like to eat, but after seeing this I am disgusted in myself for being neglegent towards what I'm eating. Why have we let this go on for soo long?

Unknown said...

I am the farthest thing from a vegetarian. I cannot eat a meal without eating meat but this blog made me rethink a lot of my practices when it comes on to food.

A lot of us choose to believe only what we see. "Out of sight, out of mind." Even though we choose not to think about it, animal farming does exist. To solve this ethical issue is not for everyone to stop eating meat. It entails finding alternatives to this gruesome method.

The United States claims to be a super power in the world but why is it that the UK has a council to protect animal right and we don't. It can be proven that the current methods used are hurting the animals so why is it the US still allows this. It is true that it is all apart of the food chain but this extreme method is not needed.

In my view, it is highly unethical and inhumane. They are animals but do have feelings. What separates them from our house pets that we get charged for if we hurt? Nothing. Change is needed.

robert said...

Nicole: the argument here is not about eating meat its about the methods used to raise these animals. There is nothing wrong with saying you feel bad for these pigs and eating them. As long as your feel bad for their living conditions.

As for the methods in which they treat these animals is horrible. We can find alternatives to these methods. as it is we have a more than enough food. we throw away huge somes of food daily (america as a country not people individually)

Liony Arzu said...

Factory Farming is basically animal cruelty and the government knowing about this why don't they act upon it? The answer is simple. It has to do with them spending less money and producing more food for the fast growing population. Yeah it's not healthy for us but then again I highly doubt there is a solution for this wether we like it or not, thats just something that will keep going on and people will buy it knowing the facts. Is sad because like you above the animals can't talk to fight for their rights.

-Liony Arzu

Madelayne said...

I think it’s a horrible thing what there doing to the animals. I think that animas should be treated with the respect that they deserve. However we mankind have always ate meat what is happening now is that over population increases the demand but decreases in quality undermining the animals. So our values have lowered so much that horrible treatments like this are given to animals.

- Madelayne Cisneros

Gabriela F said...

Animal farming is absolutely ridiculous and unethical. I may not know what a pig is feeling when it's crammed in a tight space, but I would definitely not feel too comfortable. But just because I don't know how the pig feels, does that mean it's not feeling? As humans there's a general pain that we feel for certain events, but humans all have different tolerance levels to pain. Does that make it safe to say, as with the pig, that because I don't know what kind of pain my fellow human being is feeling, they're not feeling pain? We don't have the same idea of pain, so what's pain to me might not be to another person.
The point is that i'm not going to torture a person just because I don't know how much pain they'll feel. That's what is being done to animals.
Another problem is that it's easy for us to post about this injustice, but no one seems to take action. The sacrifice is not only on the factories' side, it's on ours as well. This animal farming grows along with our demands. Clearly we haven't been changing our habits, so neither are the factories. It's up to us to go that other 50% in making an effort to change this system.

marie.batichon001 said...

To me a meal is not a meal without a tasty meat on my plate. There should be better ways to treat the animals,specially if they will end up in our stomack.Have you guys seen the movie Stemple Gundle? Her vision toward the animal in the farm was simply revolutionary!!! If all the farmers had followed her footstep we would have make an enourmous different regarding how we treat the animals in the farms.

Eugenio.Arranz001 said...

.According to www.dictionary.reference.com Ethical means:
1.pertaining to or dealing with morals or the principles of morality; pertaining to right and wrong in conduct.
2.
being in accordance with the rules or standards for right conduct or practice, esp. the standards of a profession.

I believe we cannot judge right or wrong with certitude, so what it is unethical to me might be ethical to someone else but "factory farming" doesn't fit in my understanding of Ethic, since what's happening is according to me, wrong. I understand the necessity, the demand, the supply. But there is so many other ways to achieve the same goal.
The standards of factory farming should change, animals cannot talk but that doesn't mean their not alive or they don't feel.
btw...This kind of reminds me to Palo ideas! It looks like the poor pigs are never gonna leave the cave towards the sun because they are physically restrain by chains (that would be us) and the only world they know which is completely different than what they could have is a little painful, they live to suffer and die. Sad...

Ina Dougherty said...

Factoring farming the way that it is currently done is wrong and should be changed. There is no way someone can say it is ok to treat animals in a manner that they would never find themselves in real life. You would never see a group of anything crammed together like a pack of dead sardines. It's unnatural and not neccesary. For centuries we have had some sort of animal raising all throughout known civilization and they never thought it was ok to treat animals like a commodity to the extreme like we do today. Family owned farms that have their reputation on the stake make all the difference. Making profit or saving .50 cents a pound is not worth the animal cruelty that is taking place legally. Anyone that thinks that it's ok to mis-treat live stock should be placed under the same conditions for just a day. It will only take a day to realize that this treatment is cruel and unjustified under any circumstance. Why are we allowing this? Also the feeling of not talking about how the food your are eating got to your table is only taboo if you feel remorse for the manner for which you received your meal. Animals that are considered pets for example dogs and cats and horses have rights because cruel people have mistreated them to the point that others had to say that it's NOT RIGHT. Now that we see and have proof of cruelty that is not justified we should say that is Not right. DON'T BUY IT! If we don't buy it then people will change they have to inorder to stay in business. Just like when gasoline went to $5.00 per gallon and we as a majority said No,I think I will reduce how much gas I buy and use thank you. The prices went down immediatly. Stop grabbing the cheapest thing you see. If you are in a budget than grab something that is still within your budget that was not treated like garbage and just take less. The animal died so you can be able to consume it. Treat it with respect and dignity that is deserves.
Ina Dougherty

Casandra Mejias said...

It's a horrible situation. But the problem is a deep seeded one because even some of the supposed regulated alternatives (i.e. organic foods) can still use similar methods. http://www.organicconsumers.org/nosb2.htm
To fix this problem we are going to need deep seeded reform. Deep seeded reform requires a movement. With the level of detachment between people and their food I find it hard to have faith in the likelyhood of that movement.

paola botero said...

Is factory farming ethical?! The competition to produce inexpensive meat, eggs, and dairy products to satisfy most of the worthless and clueless growing population has led to treat animals as objects and commodities in order to keep them from starvation! To be honest, a little bit of fasting or dieting to most of the American population wouldn't hurt anyone (since they are morbidly obese). Why is it that people doesn't simply care? Do you really think that you can rely entirely on the government and corporations?
These poor animals aren't even giving up their lives for people who appreciate them but instead for robots who just think of what they are eating next. What ignorant people don't understand is that by purchasing something a dollar more expensive than usual will be beneficial to their health overall. Who knows, that dollar might safe you from ecoli that came straight from a non organic industry! Arnulfo, yes, it is all about supply and demand, indeed a vicious cycle but are you not voting on what you want every time you purchase something! You are demanding a specific product then, and if the rest of the people who think as you do could probably make a difference by believing how much power each person can have. On the other hand, I am a vegetarian and enjoy my lifestyle very much, to those of you who aren't I recommend you purchase meat from organic farms not only to encourage the treatment animals as beings deserve but also for your own health.
Paola Botero

Jorge cano said...

Is Factory farming ethical?
To answer this question one must first set the parameters of what type of treatment towards animals is considered morally ethical.The problem is that these parameters are very obscure and subjective. For example should the treatment of domestic animals and animals that are used for consumption be different and should they be given different rights? Whatever the answers to these questions are one cannot overlook the fact that animals are sentient beings that share this planet with us, thus i believe they are deserving of basic rights whether they are used for consumption or not. Clearly animal farming does not respect these rights and those behind it are being blinded by monetary gain. Hence i believe it is our responsibilities as human beings to correct this, If it means giving up a bit of productivity for moral correctness then so be it.

-Jorge Cano

Merisier said...

Nowadays i believe to put food in our table without committing any form of cruelty to an animal is really rare because big corporations had created an industry factory farming .i understand we have to eat meet but as human we can do it better by not raising animal in such way.Factory farming is cruel,it should be considerated as a crime because of the way they slaughter animals.The government should put more regulations in place,to better protect us against the way big factory process meat to consume.

Turin Jean-Baptiste said...

It is really horrible what they make these animals go through. Im against the abuse of those poor animals but in the other hand, like professor Triff said: WE ARE ALL ANIMALS.If humans couldnt kill animals, they certainly would. For instance put human in a jungle, a wild animal (tiger, lion, panther, jaguar) would probably devour him. Anyways we are thinking animals,although we have to keep putting hormones so that they could grow faster but on the other hand they should probably reinforce regulations against such treatments.

murielle said...

Animals need advocates. We should be their advocates because it has been proven that they feel the same way we do, but they commnicate differently. We do not speak the same language, but somehow we understand each other. We owe them the pride and dignity that so much we fight for, yet we take it away from them because they are inferior. I might be an hypocrit for being a complice of their purge and still judge it.Again It is a matter of education. Overall, It is the law of jungle, it is not easy to step away from our animal instinct;The law of the most powerfull is the best. It is actually a big battle between mind and body. Nonetheless, they deserved the same treatment we require so often from eachother although they will be executed. That is also where our health that we care so much about starts. If we do not care about them, how could we care about ourselves? they complement how health.

Andrea Montero said...

It is astonishing how many things go on simultaneously in the world, in our own countries and even in our cities. Things that many of us are not even aware of; or others who do know about it, ignore it because of the cruelty involved. It's funny how sometimes we decide to ignore reality and take the easy way out just because we think it doesn't affect us directly.
Now the argument is clear, we are what we eat and what we eat its being treated in an irresponsible and dangerous manner by US.
So it seems like we are not that smart after all; we damage our own food, therefore our own bodies, then we realize it and finally we ignore it, what a marvelous cycle.

Forgetting us for a while, we are also hurting unoffensive animals that form an important part of our nature and do not deserve to be treated this way. The problem it is not only about eating them or killing them, it is about making their lives miserable. I do not think it is ethical, even though i consider it will take a long time for us to change this manners. The business is what matters today, and to stop it, it will require a huge movement of masses to raise their voices and use the law to extinguish or at least diminish this terrible phenomenon.

ANDREA MONTERO

miguel said...

Im an animal lover and i hate reading the things people do to animals. It makes me sick. They leave these pigs rotting with no space to mover and they dont even wash them. How horrible.

Luis Ilabaca said...

I am not for the idea that we should not consume aniamls at all as i do believe that its part of the cycle of nature; But I am for the ethical treatment of animals, i feel that there should be no need for animals to be treated so poorly and basically be pisoined to end up our fast food restaurants and in our diats. I feel that there should be stronger regulations that protect the treatment of aniamls during their short lives even though it can mean a small increase in our grocery bill, it can reduce health rish in the long run.

Roodlins Alcide said...

first of all i don't eat pork for that reason alone i shouldn't concern but, it's not only pigs that are treated that way. human being put their self ahead of this everything which we are but, we should not forget that animals feel pain like we do. if we eating something we should treat it carefully because it is useful to us.